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So I'm one of these people that pay attention when they keep hearing things over and over. In the past 6 months 80/10/10 has been mentioned or I've been asked about it at least 5 times.  The last time one of my clients asked my my opinion and I responded I had no opinion since I hadn't read the book yet.  

I had the book in my personal library but I just hadn't gotten around to read it yet.  While I was on vacation I read it, had a few light bulb moments, and after sitting with the knowledge for a few weeks I've decided that I'm going to start working towards this and see how it goes.  

I've spent the last two weeks working on it and taking it one day at a time.  It's been kind of interesting so far and here is my experience.  On the days that I'm following it really closely I feel great but I'm hungry all day.  So I may not be eating enough calories and need to work up to it.  On the days that I had some other commitments and for whatever reason didn't follow because I had cooked vegan, more nuts or avocados than I had planned that I didn't feel so good.  Also noticed major differences in bowel habits as well.  Love the elimination that happens.  

I have noticed that I've not lost any weight but that isn't the main reason I wanted to try it.  I like to be my own personal guinea pig!  The other reason I wanted to try it is I felt like I was have too much fat in my diet.  So trying to really cut this out. 

If anyone out there follows this type of eating tips are appreciated.  I will keep posting every few days or so on my progress. 

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Comment by Debi on August 9, 2012 at 6:15am

Let me know how you like them. 

Comment by Supermom on August 3, 2012 at 9:46am

I just received my 3 pack of books from Dr. Douglas Graham's Food & Sport website. 80/10/10, Nutritrition and Athletic Performance, and Grain Damage.  I am excited to read them! 

Comment by Debi on August 2, 2012 at 5:55am

Supermom, Yes I'm finding the BBS interesting.  I can't wait for Kristina either!!

Comment by Supermom on July 31, 2012 at 3:30pm


I am glad you are listening to the Brilliant Body Summit and hope you enjoy it. I loved Dr. Graham and Dr. Ruth Heidrich's talks! We can always go to their youtube channels or websites to learn from speakers we miss. I am looking forward to our beloved Kristina Carillo-Bucaram speaking next Monday.

Comment by Debi on July 31, 2012 at 5:53am

Thanks for the link Susan.  Supermom, I'm listening to the Brilliant Body Summit as well. I missed the Chris Randall and Alison Andrews interviews. 

Comment by Supermom on July 30, 2012 at 6:11pm

Thanks for the video clips Susan!  These are powerful thoughts to consider.

Maria, I think there is enough credible scientific evidence to support that  low-fat vegan is a great choice.

Debi, thanks for this discussion and clarifying that the BIGGEST most IMPORTANT thing to remember is to listen to your body.

Right now, I am enjoying low-fat, high raw, with a small amount of cooked starches and grains. I sense that my body is trying to let me know that the starches are hard for me to digest, so I am slowly letting them go.  

I just ordered a 3 book package from Food and Sport, the 80/10/10 website with the 25% discount code "Brilliant", from The Brilliant Body Summit. I look forward to reading them all, and the grain book in particular.

Comment by Susan : ) on July 30, 2012 at 12:47pm

Check out this discussion thread in the RFR library:

Comment by Debi on July 30, 2012 at 6:34am

Supermom, I don't think you are being controversial at all. I opened the discussion to see what people's thoughts and experiences are.  As for the cooked starches, personally I don't digest those well so I choose not to eat them.  I also believe the BIGGEST most IMPORTANT thing to remember is to listen to your body.  It will tell you what it wants.  There are some things I'm not sure that I agree with in the book 80/10/10 such as the spices and root vegetables. But I'm not going that hard core right now.  Just slowly trying to move to low fat as I realized this is where I feel like I've failed in my raw life style that has sometimes left me making cooked choices when otherwise I might not have done that.  Will keep posting my progress here. 

Comment by Maria on July 30, 2012 at 6:11am

This is a very informative comment Supermom! I think it deserves it's own post actually! I'm doing the cooked starches myself right now since I felt unsatisfied last time I was 100% and also I can't afford it longterm, at least not right now. It's a pickle isn't it? Is low fat vegan better than high fat raw? I still eat a lot of raw fruit and veggies. As for seasoings I think you can make things quite tasty with just added spices and herbs. Some spices are stimulants of course.

Comment by Supermom on July 29, 2012 at 4:59pm

I do not want to be controversial about this.  In my own personal journey, I am leaning towards 80/10/10 also. I am very interested in your experience as you test it out.  

Here are some thoughts and my list of pros and cons I have been wrestling with if you are interested in where I am at right now.

I like the youtube video by Durian Rider regarding two books he recommends,  "80/10/10" and "The Starch Solution".  Durian Rider chooses raw as first choice, but when it's not available, uses cooked starches as his second choice for main calories.  He agrees with the science keeping the fat low and includes a large amount of greens and other colorful veggies. He mentions that people around the world can not always get to raw fruit or afford to bring it to them.

I've been studying the research regarding a starch based diet verses a raw fruit based diet.  The evidence for a very low fat diet is clear, and published in the top medical journals, but starch verses fruit for calories is unclear.  

Top medical journals report that eating too much fat, prevents insulin from doing it's job, so sugars from both starches and fruit can't get into the cells to be used as energy. If fat percentage of calories is below 10%, then insulin can do it's job and escort the fruit sugars into cells.  The fiber in fruit slows the fruit sugar spike in the bloodstream.

The case for Raw foods is that Raw foods have their phyto-chemicals, enzymes, and minerals intact.  Raw foods are easy to prepare.  Raw fruit provides nutrient rich calories. Raw fruit has a high water content. 

The case for whole, cooked starch, foods is they are inexpensive; grains and beans can be stored dry for long periods of time; and the fiber slows the sugar into the bloodstream.

Drawbacks of fruit:  not always available and can be costly.  Too many fruit meals by constant grazing in a day can be too many calories unless you increase exercise. (I gained 5 pounds recently and realized that I need to fill up a little less often, and move more.)

Drawbacks for cooked starches: need to cook most of them which loses a lot of nutrients; when grilled or cooked at high temperatures creates cancer causing toxins; some create allergic reactions or digestive intolerance; and tend to be bland without added seasonings, salt, fat, and sugars. 

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